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computer advice needed

  • Nov. 28th, 2006 at 12:09 AM
i am thinking of getting me this new toy - for djing as well as normal computery stuff for uni etc.

just wondering really - is there anything wrong with it? as far as me and chris can see (after internet-based research) it doesn't seem too bad specs-wise but wondering if there's anything we've missed, or also if anyone has experience with a sempron 3100+ or advent laptops.

please help!

ps: i don't *just* want it because it's pink, although obviously that is a factor. i am fully aware that being pink does not mean it is a good laptop (i have seen many crap pink laptops on t'interweb today).

pps: please don't take the above to mean i've only been searching for pink laptops, i just wanted a basis for comparison.


digitaljunky wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 12:26 am (UTC)
PC's can be rather tempremental with regard to DJing. I've been on too many dancefloors when everything has gone quiet to trust them. I bought a Mac...
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 09:52 am (UTC)
ah, this is i did not realise. might be worth investigating that then - thank you :).

is that likely to be hugely expensive though?
digitaljunky wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:33 am (UTC)
The new MacBooks start at £749 new, but they've just released the newer model with the Intel CoreDuo2 chip, so expect to see some of the (slightly) older ones with the CoreDuo chips entering the second hand market pre-christmas. I wouldn't be concerned about buying one used, as most Mac owners tend to keep thier machines in top working order. I bought mine from second hand about 6 months ago and I haven't had a single problem with it (whereas buying a used PC is just asking for trouble).

As far as software is concerned, if you need windoze applications then the newer Macs will dual boot anyway, although with the Apple operating system and software bundle that comes as standard chances are you'll never need to!

The main thing to remember is that a budget PC is just that. There is no such thing as a budget Mac. You pay more now, but you get a computer that is good for years (I know people who are still using the Mac's they bought 6 years ago with no problems) and almost completely hassle free. I don't know anyone who can say the same for thier PC.

Of course, they don't come in pink ;) x
digitaljunky wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:44 am (UTC)

That might help even things up a bit. Still has 180 days warranty (fully transferrable). If you're buying used, check if the Mac was oowned and used by the person selling it, and collect from the seller. Find out why they are selling it, too. Many newer Macs are unwanted presents and have never really been used...

Also, if you are thinking new I believe that Apple do quite a useful student discount (6%(?), so a new MacBook would only set you back £700 anyway!)

*off to buy shares in Apple*
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:39 pm (UTC)
definitely will be looking into that, thank you muchly! reliability is my main concern really, so i'd rather spend a bit more and get something i can trust - just might not get it so soon!
stickyvu wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 12:27 am (UTC)
Id get it becuase it's pink. In fact although I have a new laptop I want that one more. becuase its pink. hmmmm are there any fluffy bits?
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 09:54 am (UTC)
go here and tell me that doesn't make you squeal with huge amounts of girlie delight!

i don't want to compromise quality for pinkness though, i'd rather get a boring coloured one and make it a jacket or something.
stickyvu wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 12:54 pm (UTC)
Is there anyway to do this on one that works??!?!?!?!?! I soooooo want that!!

hmmm jacket you say, tell me more......
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 02:03 pm (UTC)
depends on puter really, but i'm thinking pink, possibly fluffy, possibly sparkly, possibly uv.

this is, of course, if i have the time to make one. you can buy quite pretty laptop skins on t'interweb but prices are a bit silly for what they actually are.
stickyvu wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 02:19 pm (UTC)
how where??!?!?! where?!?!
yourapocalypse wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 12:39 am (UTC)
I wouldn't buy from Dixons. And I'm not sure about the brand either.

That's not to say it's not good, though.
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 09:57 am (UTC)
are dixons dodgy? i thought they were alright, but don't really have much experience with them. yeah i was wondering about the brand too, i've only ever used dell in the past so don't know what to expect from anyone else really.
soldatengrab wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 02:03 am (UTC)

you can get a lot more for your money.
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 09:58 am (UTC)
i know very little about ebuyer, but have heard that they're rather dodgy. are you sure they're trustworthy?
digitaljunky wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:35 am (UTC)
Wouldn't touch them. Everything I have ever bought has gone back.
soldatengrab wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 12:07 pm (UTC)
I've never had problems, The dodginess, is generally due to how their business model operates. They offer stupid savings, by cutting back on staff levels, and not having a shop, just a high speed warehouse. 19 times out of 20, everything is all good and fine.

When something goes wrong (like, you get faulty goods), then yeah, it can be a bugger to get things changed, and you have to jump through hoops a little/be lucky enough to talk to the right person (who there seems to be only one of). Thats where the dodginess comes from. I'd like to say something about that, but never having had any problems, I cant comment on it. Its a bit of a gamble I guess, but I'd say worthwhile when you are looking at saving sixty/seventy quid+ or getting a far better laptop.
black_neon9 wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 08:29 am (UTC)
awww id get a Mac for Djing , PCs can be kinda funny, tho some models of toshiba are not bad.... im trying to save up for a mac myself exclusively for audio work. plus its rare for them to get spyware or viruses, they certainly dont crash as often. :-P
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 09:59 am (UTC)
sounds like that might be my best bet then, although i might have to save up the pennies and try and procure some decks for the foreseeable future. really want a laptop anyway though so hmm.
black_neon9 wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 08:31 am (UTC)
tho id have to admit that i dont encorage dixons or pcw because work on their technical helpline and i know the kind of things that go wrong with their machines a lot of the time.... i guess im a bit biased ;-)
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:01 am (UTC)
are they really that bad? i really want something that i can rely on not crashing at inopportune moments.
black_neon9 wrote:
Nov. 29th, 2006 07:32 am (UTC)
nah i would say advents are ok for some stuff tho just not sure how well they would perform for sound, they have their own little quirks, like overheating sometimes and the design for the PSU connection needs a bit of care. maybe with an external sound card the audio output would be better for mixing stuff. Top of the range Toshibas tend to be better hardware. tho they overheat on some models. Sony are expensive because of the name so they are not really worth going for. id shop around a bit and see what you can find.
libita wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 09:10 am (UTC)
oooh that looks cute, itd look fab when dj-ing too!

Iv got my train ticket for saturday ^.^ my train gets in at 1.20 i think, is that okay? i can come earlyer/later i have a train ticket where i can get any train during the day, just thought the earlier one might be better because i have to change at leicester, so there might be delays. I dont understand why there isnt a direct train..
lookin forward to seeing you! we'll have to arrange when you want to come to birmingham too :)
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:04 am (UTC)
that should be ok - sounds kinda odd about having to go via leicester, maybe they're doing some work on the tracks or something. drop me a text when you get on the train anyway so i know when to meet you :).

doubt i'll be in birmingham again till christmas but am around for a few days then so we should be able to sort something.
libita wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 02:11 pm (UTC)
Ooooh thats wonderful.. yup i shall texxt you!! yeah the leicester thing is odd..

okies let me know when your around for a few days!

cant wait till saturday im all happy and bouncy already!!

Tell me more about the club after
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:43 pm (UTC)
cool, i'll shall let you know of my christmas plans closer to the time :).

the club is called kryogenix, website here. tis fabulous, cybery and pounding. and the last ever :(. should be good.
libita wrote:
Nov. 29th, 2006 09:17 pm (UTC)
okay, thanx

and that club looks like so much fun! how far is it from J7?
faithed wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 09:13 am (UTC)
Apart from the fact that you are being charge more for the fact that it is pink, it's fine. I currently ave the same model in silver and it *seems* to be working fine. As for DJing - wouldn't know.
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:08 am (UTC)
bastards! how rude. not too impressed by the capitalising on the pink issue, but is good that it works ok, thanks for letting me know. have kinda been put off it for djing now though after all the above comments!
yourapocalypse wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:01 am (UTC)
Well, they're overpriced, and they don't know the first thing about their own products, and their after sales care is non existant.
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:10 am (UTC)
might give them a miss then...

what's your view on the whole pc vs. mac thing? cos i'm thinking that a mac might possibly be a better plan now - what about in your experience?
yourapocalypse wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:58 am (UTC)
I've only used, and have never had any problems with a PC laptop. I know Macs are more expensive as well.

That said, I've never used them (well, not for about a decade), so I'm not sure how they fare for DJing. Matt C will know :)
pinksparklystar wrote:
Nov. 28th, 2006 10:47 pm (UTC)
yeah matt seems quite pro-mac, and seems to be winning me over. i'm liking that they sound more reliable generally, and would probably last me longer.

still umming and ahhing a bit though. grr argh. and also meep.
putrescine wrote:
Dec. 4th, 2006 09:23 am (UTC)
Heya! Nice to meet you the other night at Kryogenix - are you part of the crowd that's trooping down to Birmingham for Scarlet on Friday?

pinksparklystar wrote:
Dec. 4th, 2006 10:56 am (UTC)
fabulous to meet you too :).

can't make it to this scarlet, i'm afraid - need to work on saturday. is it the 3rd friday of each month? cos then i can try and book the day after off in advance for the next one.
pinksparklystar wrote:
Dec. 4th, 2006 10:56 am (UTC)
and by 3rd, i of course mean 2nd...
putrescine wrote:
Dec. 4th, 2006 12:00 pm (UTC)
No idea, this will be the first one I've been to, and that's largely due to peer pressure.

If possible, try and make it to Club Misbehaviour on the third Saturday of the month in Birmingham on the third Saturday of the month, just not in December.